Help! can't use uros this winter.

[maxxpaane]

Sad to say, but the leaves are a changin here in Michigan already. I'm gonna have to go back downstairs to paint. All I have for heat is a salamander kerosene heater for the garage and I don't think that would be good with HOK. I've used reg createx but I want something that sprays a little better. Never tried etac or AA. thanks MP

[Jeroen - CDM]

That sucks mate. I'd go for AA though...but that's my oppinion...

[ABD]

I know lots of peeps that spray Uros with salamanders....Just get er hot in there and shut it down...Spray yer goods, when the fumes bail, fire it up again.....But it is a pain in the ass..LOL...All I have is 2 Ir lights for heat in my shop..I shut them off when I'm spraying too..Not Airbrushing, cuz that barely makes any fumes, the fan sucks em out quick so no worries...But basing and clearing makes a fog, so I shut em down then.

Never tried AA, but I like Goldens.

[maxxpaane]

Yeah I actually bought a couple golden colors this summer, black and a red oxide and they did seem to spray alot finer than the createx stuff. I was also wondering about getting one of those electric radiator heaters, probably would need 2 though. MP

[REDTAIL]

those little radiator put out some good heat get a few of them think you won't have a problem what part of Michigan i was born and raised 60 miles from Ironwood Michigan in northern WI.

[sharonsstudio]

I have the same problem .. but hubby has heat in the garage now woohoo...

[maxxpaane]

I'm way down yonder closer to the the Mi - Indiana border in the Portage/ Kal area.

[sharonsstudio]

Maxx I would try what dell said makes sense.. I would spray with the door open and hope for the best.. but got awfully cold until you brought the item back into the warmth..

[ABD]

Worst part about doing my way...I have a big ass fan, No worries about fumes sticking around..But it sucks the heat out and cold in with it....I've been clearing and could see my breath coming from resperator...Most clear brands recommend not spraying under 60-70 degrees...I'm shooting in 40 and below sometimes, once the heat gets sucked out.

I plan on making it a positive draft booth someday..blowing heat in while fumes get pushed out, money and time permitting...My way is better than nothing, but far from optimal:D

[Mike44]

I lived in an apt in Queens NY and I swear in the winter we either opened the windows cause there was too much heat or froze cause there was not enough. In NYC you don't have control of the heat.

I went and got one of those oil filled radiator type heaters it was awesome would heat a 20 foot by 15 foot room in no time.

It had an automatic thermostat and would cycle on and off all on its own worked great. I never did see a significant jump in the elec bill.

Left it for the new tenents when I moved.

[sharonsstudio]

MIke is there a flame or a sparker to heat the oil.. not good with uros.

[maxxpaane]

Hey Sharon how did your husband heat your garage? I'm still going to look into those electric heaters. MP

[REDTAIL]

the oiled filled radiators hating element in in the oil o don't think there is any kind of spark with them qt night in California it will get down to close to 32 degrees 2 of those heaters would keep the garage about 60 degrees if your garage is insulated about for of them would keep ya pretty toasty

used then in a basement in

[jerseycrazee]

well winter just sucks across the board...anyhoo...i use the etac i only have the private stock (textile stuff but i use it on canvases too)... there is the fx series ...its waterbased and made for hard surfaces....if it sprays like the private stock stuff as i think it should it would be a good fix for your indoor spraying....hope this helps
btw that reminds i need to order the fx series .....
cheers

[Cowboy]

Allthough Uro,s are Just as Flammable as any other Solvent based paints They are not Nearly as Combustionable as Laquers Or Laq thinner. The initial Spark ( Like Lighting a Cig , Or a Heating Unit or Water heater Kicking on ) is the Most dangerous thing when the Fumes are Present Not The Flame .

The Flames as long as Constant will Actually Burn the Fumes as they are Produced But Also Tends to Burn up the Oxygen in the air along with it in a Fairly sealed Enviroment causing another Danger Most Aren,t even aware of Mostly Depleting Your Breathing Supply, All Might Seem Fine untill You Open a door & a new supply of Ogygen hits the air & Thats what Ussually will Explode Or causing a flash fire of the Chemicals .

I,m Not saying Whats Safe & Whats not , Just Making aware the Dangers that Most People dont think of , I,m No Scientist or Expert But Have Several Friends that Have Had Explosions in there Garages , Basements, or shops . & The Way things that Were Explained to Me From Some of My Firemen friends that Investigated the causes of the accidents .

Most Times Its The uncapped Container of Laquer thinner , Or solvent Soaked Cleaning rags Mixed with different types Thrown in a pile Together That ar Far more Dangerous then the Paint fog itself. Just My 2 bits .

[jerseycrazee]

Allthough Uro,s are Just as Flammable as any other Solvent based paints They are not Nearly as Combustionable as Laquers Or Laq thinner. The initial Spark ( Like Lighting a Cig , Or a Heating Unit or Water heater Kicking on ) is the Most dangerous thing when the Fumes are Present Not The Flame .

The Flames as long as Constant will Actually Burn the Fumes as they are Produced But Also Tends to Burn up the Oxygen in the air along with it in a Fairly sealed Enviroment causing another Danger Most Aren,t even aware of Mostly Depleting Your Breathing Supply, All Might Seem Fine untill You Open a door & a new supply of Ogygen hits the air & Thats what Ussually will Explode Or causing a flash fire of the Chemicals .

I,m Not saying Whats Safe & Whats not , Just Making aware the Dangers that Most People dont think of , I,m No Scientist or Expert But Have Several Friends that Have Had Explosions in there Garages , Basements, or shops . & The Way things that Were Explained to Me From Some of My Firemen friends that Investigated the causes of the accidents .

Most Times Its The uncapped Container of Laquer thinner , Or solvent Soaked Cleaning rags Mixed with different types Thrown in a pile Together That ar Far more Dangerous then the Paint fog itself. Just My 2 bits .

wowsers CB i never thought of that...my cleaning rags i just toss in a garbage bag by my boot ,,,then i empty my ashtray in there..you get the picture a fire just waiting to happen....good lord thanks for that reminder

[Cowboy]

No Problem JC & I,m Guilty more then most , i Wont even The mention The things I,ve Got away with. Just Sometimes No matter How much Common sense You think you . Only Takes Getting in a hurry to Get Yourself & Your Family in Trouble. Or just not Knowing how Certain things React or Counter act .

Point in case . Your cleaning the house, or Workshop or shop bathroom , Using a lil Ammonia Here & a Lil Bleach There . God Help You if They Make contact. as far as Liquids. ( A Deadly gas that could make You unconcience Before You know it ) .

Throw a Few Cleaning Rags in the corner With the same Chemicals & You have the Recipe For Something much worse. Just trying to Help keep People safe that Might Otherwise not be aware . Dont Ask Me how I know. Just Trust Me, Stay Safe . Just another 2 bits of what I feel Important for people to be aware of if not allready .

[ABD]

Indeed CB..Been lucky here with no war stories..But doesn't mean it can't happen in a second..my shop garbage is overflowing with paper and thinner soaked paper towels..LOL..getting cleaned up tomorrow:D

[AndyW]

All good points CB, nobody else is going to look after you, so with a little thought, lets all enjoy many years of ABing.