Help With auto air ?

[trainman]

I don't mean to rehash this endlessly, but I do need some info. I like Enamels for flow, coverage, adhesion, etc. but the toxicity and cleanup are becoming a problem.

I've heard Auto Air is a water-based enamel - is it really enamel and not just a different version of Createx ? I've also heard it is more difficult to work with than other paints - any help here ?

I've been to the web site and am confused on what I need to get started trying it. Do I need Bases plus Semi-Opaques to lay down some color ? How different are the Transparents (are they like Createx ?) vs Candies (are they real Candies ?) as compared to say HOK or Euros ? What is the difference between the Pearlized colors and the Metallic colors (particle size ?) and do they require different spray techniques ?

Any help you can share would be appreciated.

Trainman

[AndyW]

Hi Trainman have heard some folks have a bit of trouble at first getting going with AA, however do believe that AA does do a very good DVD, on application and usage, as with all paint systems you can use it different ways, some folk shoot straight from the bottle, or use something like the reccomended 3 to 1 mix, believe you can use it over any base, If I am right as well believe you can AA over uro's but not the other way about.

More people with AA experience will surely drop by and give you a little more detail.

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this one is AA there some red cadie in there someware

i got the user guide dvd and 4 2 oz bottles for around $40 . email them and they will send you a user guide book with a ton of really good info

so get the user guide dvd 3 bottles of paint and one bottle of 4011 reducer and give it a shot!! its not that hard to use you just cant lay it on heavy

i like the stuff the only draw back is a guart of 4011 is around $40

RT

[Jacoart]

Did this testpanel with detail white and cover it with candy deep bleu.

Still struggling myself for the small details , so i have to do some practice myself. The most difficult thing is the mix, because the standard for 3:1 isn't always the best mix.
I normaly spray with golden and it's still my favorit, but you have to try something different to.

[Strictly Attitude]

I have used uro's over it never had a problem it's finicky

[lesabb]

Trainman, AA is all I use. For most transparent colors (except for root beer and white) I use 5:2 mix with 4011 reducer so not quite 3:1. Root beer and white can be used straight out of the bottle at 30psi (my working pressure, even for micro details). Usually semi-opaque will be used for base coat. Transparents for graphics. The candies are REAL candies. I cut them down to 30% with trans base and then 1:1 with 4011 reducer. Lots of info on the AA website. If you shoot with bigger guns i would recommend 1-1.2 mm needle in very fine coats. Hope this helps.

L

[Merlinsoars]

After shooting voc based paints all my life I had a steep learning curve with the AA but if you follow their DVD instructions you'll get great results. I shoot a Nason uro clear and have not had any issues
Peace
MTM

[Cowboy]

I never Used it Trainman , But I Beleive it is an Acrylic enamel of Some type, Which I Would doubt is Waterbased . But Hopefully some one that Knows will post for sure .

[Frog]

AA is a good system, IF you take the time to learn how to use it (much like everything).
AA does need to be clearcoated though unlike enamels.

[Jeroen - CDM]

AutoAir is waterbased allright. You can thin it with water or reducer. When I do portraits & make the shades of the fleshtones I usually add a few drops of airbrush-cleaner (alcohol) so it becomes more transparant.
I'm very pleased with the results it gives. Nice flow & practicly no drytip.
It needs to be clearcoated indeed.

[trainman]

Thanks for all the responses, folks. Your thoughts give me something to go.