lettering

[purplemyth]

Ok, should I ask here or in the sign forum? I guess I should learn simple script.
Got another bike coming over, is another law enforcement friend of the red bike (:clapping2:) Is an Alabama football guy, "Nothing real fancy but Using the saying (Roll Tide) and (Crimson Tide) and (13 National Championships) (22 SEC Titles)." with crimson and white lines, on a black harley road king.
So, Jimmy, Whit, got any good advice or links that I can start learning from? I can find youtubes to watch too. This guy will get a pounce pattern for now, but I guess I should just go ahead and learn simple lettering huh?

I keep getting cop guys, I'll have the neighbors on edge if I get them to show up in cruisers and maybe scare my kid straight too LOL!
Any tips will be helpful :D

[AndyW]

One Whit gave me http://www.handletteringforum.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=2481

and http://www.theletterheads.com/ just waiting to get some quills

[purplemyth]

ah, forgot about that site~
cool!

[JimmyG]

.... I guess I should learn simple script.....

So, Jimmy, Whit, got any good advice or links that I can start learning from? I can find youtubes to watch too.

....This guy will get a pounce pattern for now, but I guess I should just go ahead and learn simple lettering huh?
Yeah Carlene,'tis time to learn a simple script...
i started with pounce patterns also but once you find a script font or alphabet that you like and practice it some, you will quickly move on to laying it out with a china marker or omnichrome equivalent....
Look at some "Letterhead" script fonts, to start with as they promote a hand style of script lettering...

Signfonts.com has some nice script fonts also, which the style can easily, with practice, be converted to hand painted script....

http://www.artandsignstudio.com/fontmenu.html

I know of several that would compliment your pin style....to be able to hand letter a nice script will surely add to what you can do for custom customers as they come to you for stripes....

[purplemyth]

these are some I saved a long time ago~
3661036611366123661436613
I like the casual upstroke one.

[purplemyth]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MN4CUSsCBGg
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dvVdIE2HARc
I have a 1992 1/8th " to start with.
Just getting ideas~

[purplemyth]

Well?
36620R, b, S,s are my problems. So far.

The top is with the lettering brush, everything below the second line is with the bobbo~
just doodlin'~

[JimmyG]

I will go with the "Well...?"....kudos for sure on trying to do script "straight up"....

Script lettering needs to be "italic" with various degrees of slant depending on the "words" and interaction of letters "within" the word....

Script lettering is all about the flow of it, which translates to the visual personality of the lettering....

Straight up script is seen better when converted to a straight up "casual" style of hand lettering...
Straight up letters focus your vision on the letters....

"italics" try focus your vision on the flow of the word and add some visual importance thereof....

Go back to your stroke charts that you posted above and add another 5 degrees to the slant, make another pattern to follow, and see how much easier the brush strokes of each letter will be similar to stripe strokes in directions that your are now used to......

"Casual" style hand lettering is just such...letter by letter, yes usually best as italic....

"Script" style hand lettering must have the thin "connectors" between each letter which is the unseen factor that makes the letters into words have some visual flow....

Oh, and by "straight up" I mean strictly vertical....

[JimmyG]

Here's an example to illustrate my above posted explains about "personality" of script lettering...

[JimmyG]

The next most important factor with hand lettering scripts or casuals is "kerning" between letters to keep the flow or enhance personality of the word or name....

here's some further examples of names as Carlene was trying....

[AndyW]

Wooo nice explains Jimmy

[purplemyth]

thanks Jimmy! I will work on that. It's a bit odd for me as I'm an opposite writer. If you take the italics and lean them in the opposite direction, that's my natural writing style, so leaning it to the rt is a bit off for me lol!
Like with everything else, practice practice practice :D

[AndyW]

Some one say practice lol......

[purplemyth]

Well, I've been at it for an hour and I'm just frustrated with it. I will have to go at it another time, for now, it'll be a pounced on, drawn on pattern for "roll tide' lol!

[AndyW]

What about something like this


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5rHcDAJS_tI

[maxxpaane]

That stuff amazes me, takes a steady hand. MP

[JimmyG]

.....It's a bit odd for me as I'm an opposite writer. If you take the italics and lean them in the opposite direction, that's my natural writing style, so leaning it to the rt is a bit off for me....

Ah Carlene....I understand further, and can totally relate....
You will do best to develop and practice a specific alphabet of the upright script, with thick to thin letters and then later on try to italicize them....

Below is an example of such....

You will find that certain letters will want to stand alone as a casual type letter, as in "Robert" with the R, o, b....
As you progress, you will find ways to connect those type letters, to others, with thin loops like from the top of an "o" or curls from the bottom of letter like the "b".....
As you develop your alphabet you will see the exact letters that need this "extra connector" and it will be the same letters with every word that you handletter....

[purplemyth]

Thanks Jimmy, I'll have a go with that~
It was somewhere in late 8th grade I started slanting the other way, just to be different I suppose.

[AndyW]

Hmmm the wife slants her writing to the left, mines goes to the right.

[bigwater]

Slanting usually follows the hand that you write/paint with. I'm odd in that I'm left handed but slant to the right. Naturally, most left handed people slant to the left and most right handed people slant to the right. Are you right or left handed Carlene? Either way, your slant can be adjusted with a wrist curl in one direction or the other.

[purplemyth]

I'm right handed Ron, but my cursive writing is slanted slightly to the left. Backwards lol! But my regular is almost straight up and down.
My ex was lefty and his went to the rt. But he wrote basically upside down I called it. Tip pointed sharply at his wrist.

I'm just strange ~ will be something to work on, just like anything, practice practice practice lol

[sharonsstudio]

I suck at lettering unless it's steciled.. no wait I still suck at stencils too!!!
good luck.. I know you will practice until you have it.. patients and practice..

[bigwater]

Yeah, practice. Most left handed people slant to the left because they are curling over the top to try to keep from smearing their work. That's not just in painting, but in general writing like signing a check. The hand follows the ink for a left handed person, the ink follows the hand for a right handed person. Personally, my hand never touches the substrate that I'm writing on, so it doesn't matter. Practice keeping your hand (the meat below your pinky finger) off of the substrate, and lettering at a more extreme angle should become easier. You might want to build yourself a maulstick to help teach you keep your hand off of what you are lettering. The maulstick will only last for a short time... once you get used to lettering without touching the substrate, you'll throw the thing away.

[purplemyth]

I found some more fonts online and printed them out, just going to practice "Roll Tide' for now for this guy around the corner. But yeah, it'll be something I keep working on. :)