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AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA,,,MY BOSS IS CALLING ME AND CALLING ME to come to the office and im LIKE "whaaaaaat do you want already" HES LIKE okay forget it,,go ahead guys take it out of here,,im like "WHAT" he says "SHE DONT WANT THE AIR COMPRESSOR FOR SATURDAY" im like AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA WHAT IS IT,,,

its a tank that ya fill with air and looks like a regular compressor but not,,it stores air,,,he doesnt know how long tho,,but its big,,i think i feel sick im so excited,,,,,,my first time spraying outsiDE at my spot,,,,i got to go puke,,,,,,,,,,,

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looks like a red silent hill 50,,,hold on reading the name HUSKY

[ABD]

C'mon..Take Pics!...we need Pics..hahahaha!.........Congrats my friend...I bet you'll get people just watchin in amazement now.

Just thinking how ya paint, ya know holding the hat in one hand drawing with the other.....ya should get yerself a Manaquin (SP?) head...mount it to a corner of yer table..So you can AB with both hands.....I got a head from a beauty place..Those practice ones people learn to do hairstyles on...Use it for my Helmets.........Just an idea:)

[Whit]

Good Show,,, and Good Luck on it !!!
Should open up a new avenue for ya !!!

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I CANT take toilet plungers and stick em on the table so the heads go up higher,,lol,,,its something that ya fill with air,,and it stores,,its wireless,,ill post em tonight,,

[redanner]

Nat go ahead and puke! Your stomach is turning and churning go ahead and puke! You might as well get it over with and puke!!!:smilie_barf:

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he wont even let me touch it till after work ,,,,how much of a tease it that,,people are talking to me and im like just in a fog,,,tonight i have to really test it,,i cant keep it,,i can use it till monday to see how it works he said,,,THATS GOOD ENOUGH FOR ME,,,yeah i want to puke,,omgggggggggggggggggggggggggg,,,,,,:jump::jum p::jump::jump::jump::jump::jump::jump::jump::jump:

[ABD]

he wont even let me touch it till after work ,,,,how much of a tease it that,,people are talking to me and im like just in a fog,,,tonight i have to really test it,,i cant keep it,,i can use it till monday to see how it works he said,,,THATS GOOD ENOUGH FOR ME,,,yeah i want to puke,,omgggggggggggggggggggggggggg,,,,,,:jump::jum p::jump::jump::jump::jump::jump::jump::jump::jump:


Might wanna pull yer Moisture trap off yer comp..put it on that air tank if it doesn't have one....I just picture air sitting in a tank building up some mean water...That'd suck

[airarts]

Girl, I think it is time that you and a few other artists get your OWN space, and do whatever you want. You are talanted and smart enough, and you have enough collegues in her for any questions and support! Besides, we will send Dell down there to kick some ass! :sport-smiley-005:

You are OUR Creative Genious, and OUR Batty Natty! :angel-smiley-007:

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thanks all for the vote of confidence,,,thanks a bunch dell i cant look at ti to i get home,,,rrrrrgggg,,,i saw gauges on it tho,,,drivin me nuts over it:smiley_bliss:

[Whit]

Just make SURE it all fits,,, AIRTIGHT !!!
Can't afford to loose any air unneccessarily !!!
Play with it a bit before you take it out on
location,, that way,, you know what to expect !!!
Surprizes are a bummer,, on location !!!

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i am whit,,,tonight im doing some custom work,,so ill just use the tank and see how she blows,,,,AAAAHHHHAAA hanging with you guys too much now im POTTY MOUTH

[Full Blast]

Natty grab it. But dont have to high of expectations. If it only stores air it wont last a whole day of airbrushing. I have idea how long it will last, maybe an hour or two at (guessing) :) If your not using it to spray be sure to turn it off the tank to be sure and keep all the pressure in it you can.

Peace

:tee:

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noooooooooooooooooo MORE THAN 1 TO 2 HOURS,,,

[Whit]

Might have another compressor handy,, for refills !!!
Would just be a matter of taking off long enough to fill
but you would'nt have to have the comp at your side !!

[Full Blast]

Natty

IM ONLY GUESSING! Take it home like you said and try. But dont be to disapointed if it doesnt last long. Thats why we have suggested Co2 tanks in the past. They will last all day. :)

:tee:

[ABD]

Best way to tell..Go home and fill er up to the top.....Set yer regulator at what psi you normally spray at....Tape yer AB trigger down, walk away and time it...Least then ya know how long it'll go with non stop spraying.

I'm with Rob though..Depending on yer Tank size..I'm guessing a couple hours if that......I have a 60Gallon tank on my comp...That'll kick on a couple times a day when spraying..Air doesn't last to long

[egneg]

It will depend on a few variables as to how long it will last.
1. How much PSI you can put in it.
2. The size of the tank.
3. What pressure you spray at.

For example if you can fill it to 100 psi and spray at 60 psi that only gives you a range of 40 psi. Now the hard part is converting the gallons (which is how a tank is measured) to cubic feet of air at a given pressure. Then figuring how many cfm your airbrush uses at a given psi. As you can see this can get fairly complicated just to do the calculations. I will tell you that you will run out of air in the tank before you get a mathematical answer.

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heres the model,,i snuck a peek when everyone left,,,HEEEHEHEHEHEHE FEEL SO EVIL,,,,:D dell my camera is at home and the flash broke maybe i can find a stock photo in a minute,,,

heres the model,,NEW AND IMPROVED QUIET AIR,,HUSKY ,,(SUPER LIGHT,I JUST LIFTED IT,,,HEEHEHEH) SAYS

100PS1
120 VOLT
0.7 SCFM @90PSI
2 GALLON TANK

MODEL # FP204500AV
LOOKS JUST LIKE THIS ONE,,BUT THIS ONE IS 3 GALLON,,, http://images.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://www.homedepot.ca/wcsstore/HomeDepotCanada/images/catalog/4d9429c2-e4f9-47bf-b2e3-bac6b315c896_4.jpg&imgrefurl=http://www.homedepot.ca/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/prodmap_947864_947864_10051_-15_10051_mode%2Bmatchallpartial_mode%2Bmatchall_0_ 0_level1_HUSKY&h=400&w=400&sz=76&hl=en&start=4&um=1&tbnid=nEMk7-fjk7HP_M:&tbnh=124&tbnw=124&prev=/images%3Fq%3DHUSKY%2B2%2BGALLON%26svnum%3D10%26um% 3D1%26hl%3Den%26safe%3Doff%26client%3Dsafari%26rls %3Den%26sa%3DN

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ANYONE GOT ANY CLOSE NUMBER OF HOW LONG IT WILL LAST,,,bitten my nails here,,,,IM GOING TO spray at 3 or 2 psi,,YES YES i know its not tshirt regulation spraying but i want it to last, i know 2 will work cause i had hobby compressor only able to spray 2 and the createx paints held up to it,,tonights the test,,,PLEASE GOD LET WORK END ALREADY,,,im gonna feel so kewl on the train home,,,lol

[egneg]

Ok ... I think I am lost here. Do you plan on letting it fill at home then taking it to your spot? Also I am not sure what you mean by 3 or 2. Normally the range for textiles is 45 -60 pis.

[ABD]

I'm lost too!...I thought it was a plain Airtank..That's a full blown Compressor........Are you gonna turn it on and let it fill..Then haul it out and use it till it dies?...Seems like a lot of work compared to getting a plain ole airtank..........If ya got a Co2 tank it'd last triple the time and be crazy lighter.

But ya gotta work with what ya got...Maybe you can bring a cord and bum some power off places every once in a while..(fill it back up).....Ya won't get much spray time outta it though...Maybe with crazy low pressure like yer talkin..But I had one of those way back when..At around 40psi..every 15min or so it'd kick on.

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now i dont know,,i was told fill it up at home,,and than drag it to my spot and spray,,,ill be home in a short while,,ill fill it to let ya know,,maybe im typing it wrong,,maybe the the whole tank is wrong,,,

[egneg]

ANYONE GOT ANY CLOSE NUMBER OF HOW LONG IT WILL LAST,,,bitten my nails here,,,,IM GOING TO spray at 3 or 2 psi,,YES YES i know its not tshirt regulation spraying but i want it to last, i know 2 will work cause i had hobby compressor only able to spray 2 and the createx paints held up to it,,tonights the test,,,PLEASE GOD LET WORK END ALREADY,,,im gonna feel so kewl on the train home,,,lol

I forgot to mention the difference between cfm and cfms. The s brings temperature into play also (60 degrees F is the standard). As you know air expands and contracts dependent on the temp - air is heated as it compresses so 100 psi can drop as the air cools in the tank. Depending on the temp at your spot will also have a determining factor on how long it will last.

So Nat for a true test you will need to fill the tank and then wait for it to cool before you use it. You will need to get as close to the temp you will use it in as is reasonably possible.

[ABD]

now i dont know,,i was told fill it up at home,,and than drag it to my spot and spray,,,ill be home in a short while,,ill fill it to let ya know,,maybe im typing it wrong,,maybe the the whole tank is wrong,,,

Well..Looks like a fine and dandy compressor..but you have one at home similar, don't ya?..No diff..you still need to plug it in to fill it up....if you could do that..ya just drag the one ya got at home out on weekends with ya...This new one is the same dilly.

You could do the same with yer old comp....Fill it up at home..Drag it out and use it till it dies.

That's the thing everyone mentions Co2...Ya fill up the same size tank as what ya got..But for some (scientific) reason it holds much more...Like hundreds of PSI compared to an air tank....A tank of Air might last an hour..While the same size tank filled with Co2 may last the weekend..........I'm just guessing figures..No expert here...But I know there is a huge diff:)

[Shiva]

That's the thing everyone mentions Co2...Ya fill up the same size tank as what ya got..But for some (scientific) reason it holds much more...Like hundreds of PSI compared to an air tank....A tank of Air might last an hour..While the same size tank filled with Co2 may last the weekend..........I'm just guessing figures..No expert here...But I know there is a huge diff:)

compressed air tank-IGNORING a scuba tank is about 125 to 150PSI.
a scuba tank, filled to 3,000 PSI has about as much air as the old phone booth..
a CO2 tank is compressed to about 2,000 PSI or so for the big tanks and has a lot of uncompressed volume, compared to the normal air compressed tank.
90 cu feet of CO2, running through a TINY air brush nozzle, at 20 PSI takes a long time to empty.

[Full Blast]

OK now I wanna know. Natty Did you get a airtank ONLY or the tank with compressor????
A small tank like that will only hold what can be put into it. Like if you fill it at home it would only last about 10 min. Buuuuuut the whole compressor with tank unit? yuppers take an extension cord and plug into Converse stores outlets... hee heee
then you can spray all day!

[egneg]

Glad you said it instead of me FB ... I didn't want come right out and say it.

[Full Blast]

:cuppa: Yea Eg, Natties used to me poppin her bubbles! But now I gotta go find somewhere to hide! :smiley_bliss: :auto003: or maybe Ill jump on a :spaceship::reiter:

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less than 25 seconds it deflated,,,,,,rrrrrrrgggggggg,,,im getting the co2 tank this week,,,,man why didnt i pick up on this when i carried it home,,i just had such high hopes,,,but im thinking of asking the stores maybe???

[egneg]

Along with the CO2 tank you will need a regulator and adapters for your hose. Maybe your boyfriend will get them for this months birthday?

[anderekel]

Maybe your boyfriend will get them for this months birthday?

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA, that's a good idea eggy lol. :D:smiley_bliss: :party-smiley-050::party-smiley-050::party-smiley-050::party-smiley-050::D:D:D:D

[Whit]

Another for the Birthday Girl
:party::music-smiley-018::party:

[anderekel]

Whit and eggy, you know she's gonna be mad at us right? hehe :D :smiley_bliss:

[sharonsstudio]

Nat I would go with a co2 tank sounds like it will hold alot more time for ya..

[egneg]

Hey Nat!!! I saw this in the Sunday ads and it may work for you. 89.97 for the setup and you can exchange the cylinders for filled ones. Here is a link to the main website.

http://204.15.98.122/eprise/main/RhinoPower/AirTools/index.html

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wow i was just about to spend 800 on the honda,,,thanks eg,,im reading it now

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GOD DAM IT,, LEFT my spot early today cause it got super cold,,and i was just beat,,,so i stopped at the hardware store and purchased a generator with 1000watts,,,cost me 200 dollars,,40 pound machine,,paid for a cab to take me to the gas station to fill it up,,cost like 5 bucks to put some gas in it,,paid again for the cab to take me home,,than dragged out my silentair 50 compressor to the street,,,and NADA WORKED

THAN said okay let me try this hobby compressor,,the little guy is so tiny bounces around type of compressor,,,plug it in and NADA AGAIN,,what the hell

BEATS ME,,I DONT KNOW WHAT THE HELL IS GOING ON,,actually the tiny one turned on for a minute than off,,that was it,,

so i lost about 250 today in cabs and buying this generator,,im really p off about it,,maybe i can ask the stores if i can use the outlets there?

[Full Blast]

Uhm Did you set the circuit breaker?

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i hit reset couple of times,,it was like a lawn mover,,you pull the string and move the idle up and stuff,,read the instructions,,nada is happening,,

[Full Blast]

Wow Nat.... I know its gonna be sumthin! when you find it your gonna smack yerself in the head! Right under your nose.... Thats the way it always works with that kinda thing.... Murphy kickin ya inda butt right now.... Sorry to hear it. Wish I was there to read the instructions with ya....

Wheres Dell when Ya need him?


:dropjaw:

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rob i called someone at work ,,,a locksmith to come over and check it out for me,,and they did,,they say its not enough starting wattage to get it running,,something about starting amps?

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the worst part is i cant return it,,and it stinks like gas now,,,you think its safe to pour it in my toilet,,should i empty this thing,,rrrgg,,what am i gonna do with this thing now,,,i guess i could keep it incase of another blackout

[Full Blast]

Shooot! Nat I missed ya. Dont poor the gas down the drain! Haaa haaa Toooo many jokes come to mind! Haaaa haaaaa

But really! DONT! Dangerous! Get a gas can from work and if you have to poor it into one of the work trucks!

Gas floats on water You might get most of it down but some may still be in the bowl. And it continues to give off fumes. Again BOOM! FIRE! If some one in the house smokes! Aye! Boom! Burnt BUTT! at the least! haaa haa gawd that would almost be funny! Does you boy freind smoke??? haa haaaaa.

:rofl:

Really Dont flush it!

REALLY!

Night All
Time to close and go home.

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okay got it,,good save,,ill get the can tomorrow,,thanks again,,good looking,,my butt wouldnt of liked that,,lol,,how embarrassing if the fire dept came on that,,burnt butt cheeks

[Cowboy]

Nat, Do not dump gas down the toilet. Please. You Could Blow the Whole Neighborhood up. & Dont Havta light nuthing Yerself. Just cuz The generator says 1000 watts Dont mean nuthin, Its Probably Surge watts & Wont carry what Yer trying to do. A Lil More info On What Ya got Might Help. should be a shutoff valve on the Gas, But still If Theres Fuems, & You have a Spark in Yer house or whatever You have it could ignite. Please be carefull .

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also my boss said dont turn the generator on in the house,,carbon posioning,,

its called black & sage,,1000w generator,,hold on pulling up info on it

[Cowboy]

Yes , Nat .Yer Boss is Right You Can not only kill Yerself But others in Yer Building. Its Like having a garage with a car running in it, Yer Gonna Die . Thats How alot of suicides are done, carbon Monoxide You cant smell, You just go to sleep & Its all over. Please Once again , Be very Carefull.

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http://www.explorerforum.com/reviewpost/showproduct.php/product/297/cat/19
hey here they advertise it for 97 dollars,,why did i pay so much for mine,,what the hell,,i paid 175 and shipping 15 dollars for borrowing the dolly,,for only 3 hours,,they ripped me off,,bastards,,

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okay i wont touch it,,leaving it full of gas till tomorrow i got it sitting at my front door,,yeah my boss said that too dont turn it on in the house,,thanks cowboy,,ill leave it alone,,so tempting to keep messing with it,,but ill wait,,

[Cowboy]

Ok Nat, I looked at the Link You posted But No real Viable info on What You Bought, & Only 1 comment I could see, Yep It Runs My Power drill, Big difference Between that & what Yer trying to use. & Compresor takes More power to start than it does to run, Thats Why You need to look at What You bought compressor wise & See What it takes for Surge power, & I thought You were steering towards the Honda generator, allthough Way more Expensive. But in the long run, Kinda makes Me wunder now. Why You bought sumpthin That at Least I aint never heard of. Dont Matter, Just be safe, & dont get in a hurry till Ya get it Figured out. Good Luck, & Just cuz They say Ya cant take it back, Dont Mean Ya cant.

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because everyone at work,,,who uses powerdrills and tools all the time said save money and if this is the same amps as the honda 1000 than buy the cheaper one first to see if it runs right ,,trust me im telling them i already told them im getting the honda and they said it will be a dude like this one too,,

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they are telling me now ,,that if this one did not work the honda will not work,,so i said ill buy the 2000 watt honda,,they said it still does not give you enought start power?

[Cowboy]

Ok Nat, Not I,m Trying to be Difficult, I,m just trying to make sure Yer safe. You can buy power drills, Saws Ect, that come with batterys & chargers for Way less than You paid for Yer generator. Once again No comparison, & I aint no electrician nor Rocket scientist. Si, I,ll Bow out , & Sorry if I was just trying to help. In the Thread where You asked I gave You the info I thought Might help & posted a pic of My 5000 watt generator I bought for around 400 bucks , Granted Way to heavy for Yer needs , But sometimes the handy stuff, dont work so great. I Only Mentioned the Hondas Because I Know there Reputation & Thought it was worth looking into. I Appologise For butting in. Good luck.

Key Word Here in My Opinion Is You say They are telling You. Cant beleive everything They say.

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cowboy maybe it sounds like im mad at you,,im not,,im mad at this dam circus of going around and around about this generator,,and yep i liked all the hondas,,especially the 2000 watt for the couple hundred more,,i might sound like im mad at you,,YOU ALWAYS GIVE ME GREAT INFO,,especially about not blowing up my toilet and using the gas for one of the work trucks,,IM NOT UPSET OR WANT YOU TO SHUT UP ABOUT IT,,NO WAY,,YOUR HELPFUL,,you got to understand i have no clue about this wattage stuff,,its starting to confuse the shit out of me,,maybe im just frustrated,,,,i only go by what everyone is telling me,,i tried this cheap brand,,no good,im still up for the honda brands and i saw a vendor of a sausage stand here using one,,pretty small and easy to handle,,but not sure how right they are about the same problem happening,,so, if i dish out the money for the expensive one and it still does not work,,gets upsetting,,ya know,,

WHY DO YOU THINK i would not want your opinion,,NO WAY ,,DONT EVER THINK THAT,,YOU GUYS HAVE USED THESE MORE THAN I KNOW,,of course i take all your words and use them when im searching for this stuff,,

[fontgeek]

Nat, look at what you want to plug into the generator, is it just the compressor, or does your list include lights, a computer or credit card machine, a heat setter/press, a boombox, etc. Almost all appliances have listing on the power consumption/needs. Add up all the things you want to use, and use that as a guide. When in doubt, buy larger, chances are your operation will only grow. If you aren't sure on the way it works, take your list of appliences and their needs with you to your Home Depot or wherever you are considering buying from, and let their "expert" figure it out, or ask an electrician. You can always rent a compressor for the job at hand, and you can always work with a combination of CO2 and a smaller compressor to take care of your needs. But always plan on the future, look at what you WANT your setup to be in the future, and be realistic, buying a tiny one only comes back to haunt you later on.
Good luck!

[ABD]

Hmmm?..after reading this all..I'm lost too.hehe..Yup no Gas in the Head and no starting in the house..haha

I'm always a skeptic..They say it wont work I'll try my ass off to prove am wrong...(really makes my Pops mad,haha)

Just guessing here..From my experience...If yer Generator isn't powerful enough to power yer Compressor..Most times when the Generator is running..Ya plug in the (whetever) if it's to much it bogs down the running of the Generator and stalls...Or trips the reset switch.

...If it's just sitting there and running normal..But the compressor looks dumb?..I'd say it's a something silly yer missing..

Maybe yer wattage is all wrong..I dunno numbers...I'd have to see what it was doing..The ole process of elimination. Till it comes down to "yup that's the wrong one,LOL"....Hard to do in Internet Land.

Wish i could offer more Giddys...Just all that comes to mind now:)

[XZOTIC INK]

YEAH I AGREE GO BIGGER,,thanks,

dell its got to be something like "ITS JUST A CHEAPER VERSION OF THE REAL THING,,THATS WHY IT WONT WORK,"

yep the generator started up well,,,like a lawnmower,,and than i plug in the compressor nothing,,,so i ran home got the tiny hobby compressor,,and plug that in,and it shot air out for less than a minute and than nada again,,how strange is that,,maybe its just a bad unit?

[Cowboy]

Yep, Sounds a lil fishy Nat. Do You know what wattage Yer Compresors call for ?

[XZOTIC INK]

http://www.silentaircompressor.com/super_silent.html
so do you know if im in the wrong or is there something as STARTING AMPS?

[ABD]

I have no clue either with amps and all that.

Just sounds weird how your describing it.....You said you plugged in a small Comp and it worked for a minute or so than stopped.....What stopped?...Just the lil Comp?..Or did the Generator stall or trip the reset switch?

[Cowboy]

I Cant find a wattage on it. Damn nice lil presser though. I Think That Might be Yer problem. Is The start up might be to much. I Just aint that smart figurin Watts & Amps & stuff. Hopefully Someone else will jump in soon .

[XZOTIC INK]

the tiny comp stopped spraying after a minute,,very weak it was,,the generator kept going,,

[Cowboy]

Sounds like its Just not enough Wattage nat, Have You tryed Plugging any lights, A blow dryer Or something else to Make Sure Its even generating power . ???


Also Nat, I Just Checked Mine, & Its 5000 watt continuos & 5500 watt surge . So You might look in the book that came with Yers & see if It Specifys Watts & Surge Watts, May Be Way to small for the correct start up for Yer presure. But Dont try ta run it again ( the Presure ) till Ya know for sure, It could damage it if not the correct power to run it.

[Cowboy]

Nat, I Have googled & searched & cant find any info on that Generator, The Company Or Who sells it Other than that link You Provide. Sunpthin dont seem right there. Also I cant find the wattage needed for the Silent air. So Please look in the books supplyed with both of them Look For Watts Needed & Possibly surge Watts They need as well & Well, see if We can get it sorted out .


Sorry for the double post, But It was getting to confusing .

Ok I just got done doing a lil research & I doubt that generator will even power a good Hair dryer Nat. As Even the Small kitchen appliances such as Blenders , Microwaves , Garbage Disposals , toasters , etc. Use 700 to 1500 watts to run Efficiantly. & I,m Almost positive the Compresor Will take quite a bit more than any of those. So , Im afraid to say Its Way to lil power for much more than some lighting & Possibly some Small appliances. Sorry For Yer Bad luck, & I,d really try to take it back or sell it. Good luck finding what You need.

[Shiva]

V * A=W

volts times the AMP draw (its on the model plate ) gives the watts.

5,000 watt generator putting out 120 volt will supply 41amps TOTAL..
you got a 1,000 watt generator and it will put out 8.3 amps MAX.
any more questions, holler..
BTW, on SOME things the 'starting current draw is 50% BIGGER than running.
this applies to motors mainly.
if it runs on 1,000 watt or 8 amp, it can-depending on the thing, take 12-15 amps to START it.
the big problem is how long the start load is.

[Cowboy]

Good info Shiva , Thanks .