New airbrush

[Neil]

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From the pages of Fine Scale Modeler Magazine:

Badger Air-Brush Co., the world's leading manufacture and distributor of airbrushes and related products for use in varying applications - especially custom automobile art, proudly and boldly introduces the new Renegade Airbrush Series. Badger's Renegade Airbrush Series consist of three feature loaded airbrushes - the Velocity, the Spirit, and the Rage, for use in extremely tight - detail oriented custom auto graphic applications.

Badger Air-Brush Co.'s new American made Renegade Airbrush Series is developed and designed for the very specific and intricate needs of custom graphic artists who have chosen the automobile or other hard surfaces as their creation canvas. The Renegade Series features three different airbrushes (gravity feed, side feed, siphon feed) to satisfy the usage preference of all automobile graphic artists - regardless of their airbrush style. These incredibly innovative airbrushes feature new “tensionsense” trigger action, "stopset" trigger setting system, exact taper micro-precise paint tips, "pointperfect" carbide polished needles, "smartcenter" nozzle assemblies, the most precise paint tips and linear air flow needle angles and many other features never before available in a Badger or any other airbrush.

Quite frankly, these airbrushes aren’t for everyone, they are several levels above the ordinary artist. These aren’t for the artist who thinks he’s good – they are for the proven elite artist. Anyone less is not ready for the Renegade Series, and “wannabees” best earn their stripes on a lesser airbrush before they get into an airbrush at this level of the performance scale. But if you’re there – if you’re at the point and capability of undeniable airbrush excellence, then you may be ready to know the beauty and perfection of the Renegade Airbrush Series, and the realization so tight has never been so easy.

Notable Renegade Airbrush Series Features

~ "Tensionsense" ultra responsive trigger stability tension control system

~ "Stopset" accu-precision trigger setting mode

~ Exact taper fit, non-thread micro-precise paint tips

~ "Pointperfect" polished needle micrology

~ "Smartcenter" nozzle technology with a patented "guide and hold" assembly
design that ensures perfect paint tip centering for tighter line production

~ .21mm paint tips (.33 on R3R) 6 degree needle point linear air flow angle (6.5 on R3R)

Ken Schlotfeldt, owner of Badger Airbrush Co., was asked how they compared to the Sotar and the 100LG and he said the following:


They have a mix of technology - some from each of these and some other guns as well. Then we have some new spring and seal technology, and a new polished needle process that makes the line fineness and atomization detail tighter than anything I've ever seen before on anyone's airbrush. Cost wise they are less than the Sotars, capabilty wise they are better than 100s and as good and better than the Sotars as they have the Sotar nozzle technology with this new polished needle.

To find out more about the Renegade Airbrush Series keep an eye out at www.badgerairbrush.com

[closair]

Not to knock Badger, but it looks like they are finally catching up to Iwata tech.

[redanner]

Not to knock Badger, but it looks like they are finally catching up to Iwata tech.

Actually Badger has been a head of Iwata! Badger bought Thayer & Chandler and Thayer and Chandler was the first to have the cut away handles in the 1980s! I believe Thayer and Chandler was also the first to have the reversible nozzle! They also started with the Vega 2000 series the ability to change out different size needs and self centering needle tip! Thayer & Chandler and Badger also came up with 360 series from gravity or siphon feed! If I'm wrong please correct me! Iwata has always made well engineered airbrushes! Thayer & Chandler, Paasche, and DeVilbiss makers of the Aerograph all work for Wold airbrush and went out on their own! That not quite correct Thayer & Chandler bought Wold airbrush when he went out of business! I will say the Japanese is the only race of people that can take another’s design or idea improve it and make it better! Really if I'm not correct on these facts correct me!

Oh yea Neil thanks for the show I wasn't aware of Badger's new line of airbrushes! They sure look tempting!

[Neil]

Redanner,
Charles Burdick invented the internal mix airbrush in 1892 and sold the U.S.rights to Thayer and Chandler. Wold the foreman/enginer for Thayer and Chandler designed the first modern airbush in 1896 and then went into business for himself.Wold closed his doors in 1980, but T&C didn't buy Wold airbrush when he went out of business.Wold airbrushes are now made in New Zealand. Buy the way Wold had the 2 piece head decades before Iwata. You can see many of these vintage airbrushes on my website. Burdick moved to Enland and stared his airbrush company,he later sold out to DeVillbuss. Paasche worked for T&C and then for Wold. He left Wold in 1904 to start his own airbrush company
http://www.getpainted.com/vintageairbrushes.html

~Neil
www.getpainted.com
Painting America one body at a time

[quickdraw]

Is that the brush you use now?

[redanner]

Redanner,
Charles Burdick invented the internal mix airbrush in 1892 and sold the U.S.rights to Thayer and Chandler. Wold the foreman/enginer for Thayer and Chandler designed the first modern airbush in 1896 and then went into business for himself.Wold closed his doors in 1980, but T&C didn't buy Wold airbrush when he went out of business.Wold airbrushes are now made in New Zealand. Buy the way Wold had the 2 piece head decades before Iwata. You can see many of these vintage airbrushes on my website. Burdick moved to Enland and stared his airbrush company,he later sold out to DeVillbuss. Paasche worked for T&C and then for Wold. He left Wold in 1904 to start his own airbrush company
http://www.getpainted.com/vintageairbrushes.html

~Neil
www.getpainted.com (http://www.getpainted.com)
Painting America one body at a time

Thanks Neil! Was I right about the innovations coming from Badger and T&C?

quickdraw I use Thayer & Chandler and if Badger would have not bought them and they did not exist I would have turned to Badger or Paasche! I own 2 Iwata HP-BC and the are great airbrushes also! But I would sell them if I could get close to what I paid for them! They are nice but do not perform any better than T&C! T&C costs a lot less!

[Neil]

Redanner,
Wold was the most innovative developer of airbrushes followed by Badger in modern times.Wold did his inventing by himself were as Badger does it at a corporate level with several people assisting in AB development.
I use Vega 2000s in my work as a body painter,classes and workshops.I also have the other brands so my students can judge/pick what suits them.
I feel this new Badger Renegade airbrush will be the next big thing in airbrushing and I have it on good authority that several of the big names will be switching to the new brush. By the way Badger does not pay anyone for endorsing there products.
~Neil

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Redanner,
Wold was the most innovative developer of airbrushes followed by Badger in modern times.Wold did his inventing by himself were as Badger does it at a corporate level with several people assisting in AB development.
I use Vega 2000s in my work as a body painter,classes and workshops.I also have the other brands so my students can judge/pick what suits them.
I feel this new Badger Renegade airbrush will be the next big thing in airbrushing and I have it on good authority that several of the big names will be switching to the new brush. By the way Badger does not pay anyone for endorsing there products.
~Neil

Thanks again Neil! I'm excited about the new Badgers! I just wish I had the money to buy and try 1 of each! I am stuck on Thayer & Chandler though, a model C was my first airbrush which I still have!

[closair]

O.k. this is where I insert foot into mouth.

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O.k. this is where I insert foot into mouth.

No no closair! When I was teaching under grads and graduates how to use computers for educational use they felt like you feel! But I told them that in some cases I may no more about multi-media type of software than they do but the computer and technology was so vast that they maybe more literate in other ways! As much as I know about computers and software, I don't type or keyboard as it is called these days! You could put 12 people at computers and chances are only 2 out of 12 will do tasks the same way with the same software! So don't chew on your toe nails!

[bigwater]

Quite frankly, these airbrushes aren’t for everyone, they are several levels above the ordinary artist. These aren’t for the artist who thinks he’s good – they are for the proven elite artist. Anyone less is not ready for the Renegade Series, and “wannabees” best earn their stripes on a lesser airbrush before they get into an airbrush at this level of the performance scale. But if you’re there – if you’re at the point and capability of undeniable airbrush excellence, then you may be ready to know the beauty and perfection of the Renegade Airbrush Series, and the realization so tight has never been so easy.


WHAT?

If "tight" has never been so easy" then it should be the perfect tool for a beginner. They're using this marketing spiel to appeal to the elitist in each of us and justify a premium price. This, to me, is bullshit. I absolutely abhor this sort of marketing. It makes me cringe.

[Neil]

bigwater,
Premium price? Three models
Velocity MSRP $154 Spirit MSRP $159 Rage MSRP $149 and of course they will be discounted by many sellers
~Neil

[redanner]

WHAT?

If "tight" has never been so easy" then it should be the perfect tool for a beginner. They're using this marketing spiel to appeal to the elitist in each of us and justify a premium price. This, to me, is bullshit. I absolutely abhor this sort of marketing. It makes me cringe.

Come on Ron don't get so emotional its just an airbrush and the price is about the going average! :snapoutofit: You know the real test is not what everybody thinks! Its how many of Badger's new airbrushes you see used being sold on e-Bay! That is the real test! And their not on the market yet so in about 6 months after their release we can sit in judgment! Oh! I agree advertisement is all bull shit but including mine, yours, and everybody else’s, how else do we all get to be known or reintroduced to the public! If I advertised I would have to end having at least 12 Grand Opening through out a number of years! I tried to advertise when I was in the autobody business but the area I lived in said no! I wanted raffle off a auto paint job and give the precedes to a family that had a young boy with leukemia! The community has ordinances against public raffles for any reason!

[bigwater]

Okay, you guys know a lot more about this than I do. I just found the elitist marketing to be a bit overboard. I'm not the brightest bulb in the box sometimes, but I know when I'm being jerked around by my ego.

[Whit]

hahahaha,,, I was in advertising a number of years
in my earlier days,,, words can sell,, play the ego's
on almost any given subject,, it works !!! I've seen some
great stuff come from the humble Paasche,,, I've seen crap
from a Micron,,, I'm thinkin it's what you do with what
ya got that counts,, the better your tools raises the
level of expectations from your endeavers,, so be careful
what you ask for !!! (hahahaha) been there,, done that !!!

[redanner]

hahahaha,,, I was in advertising a number of years
in my earlier days,,, words can sell,, play the ego's
on almost any given subject,, it works !!! I've seen some
great stuff come from the humble Paasche,,, I've seen crap
from a Micron,,, I'm thinkin it's what you do with what
ya got that counts,, the better your tools raises the
level of expectations from your endeavers,, so be careful
what you ask for !!! (hahahaha) been there,, done that !!!

Confucius Whit has very good intellect and is absolutely correct, right, with great words of wisdom!

[sharonsstudio]

My first ab was a badger I liked it I still use it once and a while even though it's a single action.. and you have to turn the cone to make the spray wider or thinner,,,

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My first ab was a badger I liked it I still use it once and a while even though it's a single action.. and you have to turn the cone to make the spray wider or thinner,,,

Actually a single action airbrush can be quite accurate because of no human error while spraying!

[closair]

I would like to see some of you Badger AB user write reviews for your ABs in the review section. I don't really see alot of word of mouth Badger promoting like I see with some other ABs. I started out with a Paasche VL, then moved on to an Iwata HP-CS and a HP-B plus. The Iwatas are great but if I could have gotten the same preformance for less I would have done it.