First attempt at fabric, Flame the Blind Dog!

[blinddog 99]

Well, I was curious, had some Createx I bought a while ago, but I had NEVER shot on fabric, ever, so I was kinda feeling my way. Its pretty lame, but its totally freehand, except the outer square, which I taped off. Anyway, my first T shirt (the shirt is old and worn, so was kinda fuzzy to paint on, LOL). I figure I might as well post the bad with the good, time to flame the Blinddog.....:flushed:

[moose]

Okay Scott I will play You want flames you got flames

oh ya the te looks okay for an old rag. kinda looks like Bob Dylan


Tim

[Steelhorse]

Hey Dog! If it wasn't for the fuzz that you were talking about , I think this would have turned out better than you think. Is it Bob Dylan?

I have never did a T....But I think the the T-artist's shoot something down first to take care of the fuzz...thus allowing a smoother effect.

I guess we will all learn here...looking forward to the surface prep responses.

Len

[Steelhorse]

Hey Tim!!! not fair!!!! I was typing longer than you!!! hehehehe. I had the first Bob Dylan guess!!! LOL

[blinddog 99]

Yep, its Dylan back 30 years, sort of, didn't really end up looking much like him, took too much hook out of his nose I guess, LOL. Shirt was fuzzy and kinda old, but I thought it would just be fun to blow down some Createx, and it was fun. I have a Gerry Garcia pic I am dying to do, so I thought I would get started.

Tim, thanks for the flame! ROFLMAO!

[blinddog 99]

Denise, thanks! I was just gonna sit and search through the threads for tech advice, I must tell you it was fun. I have always admired fabric painters, just never got around to trying it. I figured there might be surface prep, but being a "man", first try is just get at it! LOL, I will do a little research and try again, thanks much for the tips. Is the "binder" a Createx thingy, or what is it? (Sorry, I will search).

I think larger scale would be easier too, maybe....

[moose]

Denise another question on pressing. I have access to a hot press that was used for setting silk screens. To heat set the createx should I set something between it and the platten? Is so what would you recommend? Gonna try the moose image on a shirt by the weekend for a Pinstripers panel jam I am going to......

Thanks

Tim

[moose]

Hey Tim!!! not fair!!!! I was typing longer than you!!! hehehehe. I had the first Bob Dylan guess!!! LOL
Len

:blah: :blah: :blah: :blah: "nanner nanner nanner":wink2: :wink2: :wink2:

[blinddog 99]

Tim, kinda interesting, I have searched through the archives and there is a lot of pretty pictures and good work, but not much, if any tech info, othere than Luc's paint colors (thanks Luc). Wish there was more info.....

[Whit]

Great Scott that's Great !!!
On fabric,, sometimes it helps to lay
a coat of createx extender (or your
brand name here) to seal the fabric,,,
especially dark colored fabric !!!
Iron or heat press to flatten stuff !!!
Lookin Good Scott,,, Lookin Good !!!
I jus use a heat gun (1200 degrees)
to set the paint,,, I have,,, in tha
past,,, lost a shirt or two tho,, due
to lookin up and sayin ,,, huh !!!
With a heat gun,,, pay attention !!!

[blinddog 99]

Whit, thanks very much for the pats, and especially the tips, just don't know much about this. I have a detailed one I want to do, but I have to figure out how to transfer the image, I guess once its "sized" with the extender (kinda like intercoat clear?) I can draw on it with a Stabilo....

[Whit]

I use stabillo all tha time here,,,
I try to stay with orange tho,,,
for some reason it hides well !!!

[Steelhorse]

Denise!!! come in here and elaborate more on the surface prep.....you have been slacking lately on the help info here!!!!:wink2: LOL joking!! You must be too busy keeping up with the forum biz!!!!

You now how impatient we are when it comes to our desires and needs!!! LOL:wink2:

[Clem]

Looks good Scott. Pitched my first fabric. It was worse than my cardboard that I showed some time back.

No reason to feel bad about this one.

Clem

[blinddog 99]

Denise, as always, thanks for the tips!

[gphood]

...time to flame the Blinddog.....:flushed:

Heh... I've done a lot worse with days of planning :)

I don't think there's been any serious flaming on this message board yet has there? It's like a little oasis in the flaming hellpool of the Internet.

I'm sure someone'll be a long in a minute to spoil it all - such is life...

[jerseycrazee]

nice blinddogg welcome to the dark side young padawan soon you a sith "fabric "master (what the hell i was drinkin last night..lol)
:cheers:

[colourshift]

for an old shirt, a lot of em iron it first, it squashes the 'nap' (fuzz).

[sharonsstudio]

looks good to me:tee:

[blinddog 99]

Thanks again Denise, thanks Sharon, I was in the garage tonight unloading a paint shipment, I walked by it and notice the upper lip. I gasped! How did I wander that far away from the reference photo?? Now I know why I was ready (deserved) to get flamed, it was not a good effort, but I'll keep plugging. It was an impulse quick paint, doing something else and got the bug to try it.

Denise, sorry for all the questions, should I spray down the Createx extender before starting the sketch and paint? Does that help hold the paint up on the surface? Or is the sizing in a new shirt good enough to work on, with an ironing.

Come on Luc, pitch in here bud, I know you want to guide me, LOL!

[LucBoivin]

Thanks again Denise, thanks Sharon, I was in the garage tonight unloading a paint shipment, I walked by it and notice the upper lip. I gasped! How did I wander that far away from the reference photo?? Now I know why I was ready (deserved) to get flamed, it was not a good effort, but I'll keep plugging. It was an impulse quick paint, doing something else and got the bug to try it.

Denise, sorry for all the questions, should I spray down the Createx extender before starting the sketch and paint? Does that help hold the paint up on the surface? Or is the sizing in a new shirt good enough to work on, with an ironing.

Come on Luc, pitch in here bud, I know you want to guide me, LOL!

Sorry Blinddog...hadn't noticed the thread..LOL

Here is how I have prepared my shirts.

I'm using GAC900 from Golden diluted to a ratio of 1:1 with water and spary a fair amount on t-shirt then let dry. Then I heat set with hot iron. I used to use the Transparent base from Createx but found the GAC900 to work better thanks to Clinton's input. The GAC900 will keep the fabric pressed down to eliminate fuzzies. I believe Clinton does two coats of GAC900. Not sure.

When heat setting with hot iron, try doing on a hard reflective surface to keep the heat in the T-shirt as you press down to obtain better result. Clinton and I use Masonite boards but he has glued sheets of aluminum paper onto the borad so he can heat set directly with the mounted shirt. He syas it works well. I have wet to do another T with the aluminum on the masonite but will try it for sure.

Make sure you read label on bottle when it comes to heat setting!!

I use the same product when T is finished then heat set the same way. Clinton has even put his finished T's in the oven for a couple of minutes!!! The T which he did for me was done this way.

Hope this helps!!

Luc

[Clinton]

Yep I use 2 coats of GAC900 mixed 50% with Golden AB medium, then heatset to lay the fuzzies down. Then I use the same at the end if my shirt has a lot of small detail and iron just to smooth it out a bit and heatset in the oven for 2 min.

[blinddog 99]

Thanks guys! I appreciate the input. I must admit, it was a whim, but it was kinda fun to shoot, so I want to try more! These tips really help....

[LucBoivin]

Yep I use 2 coats of GAC900 mixed 50% with Golden AB medium, then heatset to lay the fuzzies down. Then I use the same at the end if my shirt has a lot of small detail and iron just to smooth it out a bit and heatset in the oven for 2 min.

Hey Clinton, if I use Golden Medium instead of water, do you think I would get better results?....because I have some of that medium!

Thanks

Luc

[Clinton]

Hey Clinton, if I use Golden Medium instead of water, do you think I would get better results?....because I have some of that medium!

Thanks

Luc

I use it this way so the fabric doesn't absorb my white or colour so much. I usually only use this on a darker fabric. Try it on the next one and see how it works, it helped me out.

[blinddog 99]

Alright you guys, fess up now! Luc uses water to lay down the nap, Clinton uses GAC900/Golden dog weewee? Now we're gettin somewhere, give it up for the dog fellas, what do you have to lose?! Don't make me come get you, LOL! You know Steven's goal here is sharing. Secrets kept are secrets not worth a sh_t if you can't pass on the experience. I was shocked at how little there was on fabric spraying physical technique, so I can buy all the vids or we can share maybe, since I had never gone there and just want to mess around. You see all kind of recipes for Uro's on metal, lay the wisdom on us gents, you two are the gurus we have sought all along! Remember, the dog is a Canuck as well, how can you go wrong. In fact, Clinton, I will be in Calgary and Edmonton next month, can I look you up?

[Clinton]

You can look me up if you like, can't promise i'll be too exciting. :)

Ok here's how I work on tee's, this is just what i've learned searching through the forums and a little of my own experience. It's not that complex though.
First wash and dry whatever your going to work on, as ima_r_tiste has said the clothing has starch and left over dye that will wash out in the first go.
If you have a dark shirt or just want to lay down the nap use a mix of Golden GAC900 and Golden AB medium 50-50. Put down a few light coats and heatset, you can dry it a bit with a hairdrier and then iron on high with parchment paper.
I use Golden for my work ( fluids mixed 50-50 with AB medium add about 10% GAC900) work your design in light layers. If you white is soaking in (black) use a hair drier to heatset as you go with light layers.
After i'm done if I have lots of fine detail (most of the time) i'll topcat with the same mix of GAC900 and AB medium. Make sure it's dry and iron to lay it down (makes it like a silkscreen finish). You can continue to iron for 3-4 min on high to heatset or throw it in the oven for a few minutes at I believe 350 <- it's on the bottle of GAC900.
This is all sprayed at about 35psi and working as close the the surface as possable to drive the paint into the fabric. On fine detail i'll lower the pressure ot around 25psi and work about 1/16" from the fabric, once in awhile catching the fabric.:)
I built a shirt board so I don't have to worry about burning it and to maximize the heat that stays in the fabric while heat setting between steps. I spray glued aluminium foil on the top of masonite, did both front and back so I don't have to remove the shirt for anything.

Hope that helps you out and if I missed anything ask away.

[blinddog 99]

LOL, Clinton, thanks much, this will be a bigger help to more folks than you think, certainly beyond me. I appreciate the detail you went to, that is more than the entire board contained on a full process for fabric painting. For that, you have my humblest thanks. I am sure I won't be the only one to express my appreciation.

As for visiting, your enthusiasm is too overwhelming to me, I will not impinge on your good nature if you don't want, its a long way from Texas, and I have a huge pending contract with the province of Alberta, so I'll be up often over the next few years. When you feel like sharing a paint story and a cold Kokanee, I will be happy to drop by. Cheers, and thanks again.......

[Clinton]

No, no I was only kidding. I'd be happy to have you stop by if you'd like. Just prepare yourself for alot of AB talk. :)

[LucBoivin]

Thank you Clinton for the very well detailed post you wrote. Very very usefull...even for me who has done many T's.

Will definetly give it a try with the Golden AB Medium.

Thanks again!!

Luc

[Steelhorse]

Well, it seems from all the response's from the "Family" that the Dog is finally sated with his "Treat's" Let's all hope that he doesn't choke on all the "Bones" that were tossed his way!!!! hehheheheee:wink2:

My Dogs won't even chew their food sometimes!!!!! :rotflmao:

p.s. ^5 to all that contributed to this thread!!!! A lot of good info inside this one!!!! I will have to put this one in my "refer to later...when I have the abilties...folder!" :hail:

Len

[blinddog 99]

Clinton, sorry, its my nature to be cheeky, don't be offended. I will look you up when the time comes and we can go from there, ok? Thanks again for the "bones" as Len puts it, that is extremely helpful information.......

[sharonsstudio]

I just got to read this post I learned a few pointer i'll have to try..

[redanner]

Looks really good to me for the first time and freehand to boot!:tee: