true fire ....new to the airbrush world

[airdoom]

Hi, I,ve been airbrushing for two months now and I've done a harley-davidson and my jeep... everyone is going crazy on my paint job and will come and see me to get there custom paint done....Now I need to paint one of my friends bike. I need to do some green true fire on a silver base... Can anyone give me the step I need to do. since i'm new to this i would need some step really detailled. I used HOK and autoaircolor and prefer to use the autoaircolor.

help me someone.

I've done a website with all my pics of my airbrush.

Cheers
Doom

http://www.gangfacile.com/airdoom

[Whit]

If you'll check on the forums,, I'm thinkin
some step/step articles have been posted,,,
Welcome to the Forums !!!

[sharonsstudio]

Okay come clean now you've only been abing for 2 months? I checked out your site looks like alot more than 2 months unless you're a natural in that case you've got talent boy..

[Jeroen - CDM]

Great lookin jeep my friend. Ya sure have potential!!!

Welcome aboard!!

[AndyW]

Some very nice stuff there. Sure talented.

[Cowboy]

Howdy & Welcome doom, You need to go up to the Introduction thread & post an introduction, So You can get a Proper welcome.

As far as The green flames, I Wouldn,t think it would be hard For You , Seeing as How You did so good On Yer Jeep. Looks Great BTW . But Like Whit said, Look thru the Threads Theres allready Lots of great info here. So Good Luck, & Great to have You here .

[redanner]

Nice web site airdoom! You should be able to figure out real fire from what I've seen of your work! But if not there is endless true fire examples on the web site! Just type in the search field and you be over whelmed! There is also the Artist Gallery!

[mob33]

Damn Doom!!
Nice work for a stone cold rookie!!
Keep the stencils to a minimum on the real fire and you will have it in no time!
For green fire...I start out with a white base, so in your case, on a silver base, I would start out with yellow for the loose, first layer.
Then come in with some kandy green of your choice, tone all that yellow down to a greenish shade.
Then hit the areas again with yellow, but also hit new spots, not too many stencils though...just enought to give it some form.
Then kandyh it again with green.
Next, mix a couple of drops of white and yellow together, to make a real pale yellow....now you can hit the hot spots, real loose and light with this layer...don't over do it...just some hilites to bring out where the heat is!
Now I usually hit the whole thing with a kandy yellow now..it makes the fire really glow!
Try it out and see if this works for you...if it doesn't work the first time...keep on going about another 1000 times or so like I have, and then maybe in 5 years we'll have it down! (just kidding) Just have fun with it man...we all have our own style, and yours is looking like a great start..real good start actually!
Keep on sprayin' Doom,
Later,
MOB

[airdoom]

Thanks MOB for the detailled step. 1 out of 8 people who reply to me did actualy answer my question that is pretty good. i've talk to lots of local people and most of them almost said to me you're own you're own(I guess they don't like competition). It's not like I will steal there all of there client. This is only a hobby for me and I have already a career in the computer world. Thanks for the advise

[Cowboy]

Doom, With all Due Respect, Not everyone Here is rapped up in the so called true fire Craze. So I Dont see what You mean by Yer Reply, Its not like You were ignored.

Mob33 Happens to be one Of them here that is very good at Fire & His was a Great Reply, But I see No need to Belittle the Others That gave you a Kind welcome. Thanks For Listening, & good luck with Yer Project.

[airdoom]

See I'm french and I knew that sometime people woul'dnt understand me. I was saying that I had a response to my question really fast infact it was the next day...It's been almost two weeks i'm trying to get the answer and nobody could or even would help me. I know that not everybody can answer my question I was just stating that it's dawn good only 8 people and I get my answer. Sorry Aerart but since I'm at AB for about two month I don't really know what to do and just given me color name doesn't help me too much exept to know which paint I must have.that is why when I wrote my question I've ask for detailled step. But everybody must understand that i'm really amaze how this site works and to all continue the good work

cheers
Doom

[Cowboy]

No Problem Doom, Alls good ,I Just didn,t you want to get the Wrong Impression Of the People Here Because They Are all Great & Very helpfull When They can be . & I,m perty Sure There will be More info given in this Thread. So No Problems, & Have a Great day.

[airdoom]

I'm aware that people here are really helpfull. By going trought the treads everybody is really kind and helpfull the only thing I found so far is that people state some work as good when in fact it looks hawfull. I just hope this doesn't happen to me if my works sucks I really wants to know. And if there is something I can do to rectify I will certainly try to improve. Take for example My True Fire before anybody told me to loose the stencil I was already aware and trying bit by bit to use less. but some people still managed to tell me my fire is amazing.... My fire will be amazing in 6 month or more now it looks good but not more than good. Don't get me wrong this is really nice of people but I prefer an opinion that is neutral. Maybe it's me who's too much descending towards my work because I know I can do better. Or even Maybe someday I will wake up and smell the coffee and realize that people where saying what they really tought. Hopefully LOL

Doom

[ABD]

Doom...Peoples work is a matter of opinion and personal taste...You say you see work here that looks awful..That's your taste...It might look awesome to someone else...Just because you like your haircut doesn't mean I'm going to..(if ya catch my drift).

I can't tell ya how to improve your fire..If ya want honesty, I think you have lots of learning to do before you charge other people. Not saying it wont be good eventually..But some of the best fire painters out there don't do much for me either...It's just my taste...Doesn't mean the work is bad by any means.

looking at yer Site, you're off to to good start..I see a some things in yer work that you will learn to correct in time..(Inconsistent tape lines for one)...Willing to learn, adapt and grow is a good thing....People get what they pay for and if yer happy with doing so, have at it...Asking for a magic pill after 2 months of time and expecting to get money from it is going a bit far IMO.

[airdoom]

Thank's ABD thats what i'm searching for... honesty. And I really like you\re step for the rose btw.

[mob33]

OH YA!!??
Well...I don't like...uhhh....POUTINE...very much...uhhh, well ...actually..I do...but....that's not the point! I can be honest too ya know!!!
(ha, ha, ha)
Later,
MOB

[ABD]

Thank's ABD thats what i'm searching for... honesty. And I really like you\re step for the rose btw.

Glad ya didn't think I was being mean!...I didn't want to come across that way, as it surely wasn't my intent!...Just my opinion.

You do some nice stuff and no doubt you'll get better in time...Confidence in your work is a must and it seems like you started with it from the get go...IMO confidence should come after years of seat time and testing of yer methods...You know your product by then, know what it will and will not do. Also know what you can and cannot do...Two months in the seat, still a big guessing game I'd think..Unless yer some miracle child that knows it all..hahaha!

Stick around and talk it up...I've been playin in the paint for 20 years now...Not Pro by any means and learn from my friends here on the daily...It's a fun experience and process!:pepper: