Badger 155 anthem Help....check it out

[187maximus]

ok so im mostly on Rcuniverse but theyre section of airbrushing takes FOREVER for someone to reply so i came here hoping someone would help

ok well this is whats going on, My airbrush randomly started to blow out air out of the bottom feed thing instead of sucking up the paint so it creats bubble and paint goes everywhere, and iver cleaned it to the point where theres no spec of paint anywhere on the airbrush, every little whole is clean and i can see light out of everything,, WHATS WRONG,, and i need to use this airbrush quick for a project....THanks

[Whit]

You need to look again,,, you've got blockage somewhere !!!
The only way it (air) can do that,, is if it can't go thru
in the way it was designed to,, I'm not that familiar with
your model brush,, but this is a given,, no airflow means
blockage of some kind !!!
Good Luck on it,,, just look again,, just a lil closer !!!

[redanner]

Whit is correct the Badger 155 Anthem is not any different from any other airbrush when it blows air back through the pickup tube! What was you spraying through it when it clogged up?

[187maximus]

oh well i was running some faskolor paints then i got finished, ran some paint thinner mixed with warm water through it,,, it was fine..then after a day or two i went to paint again and thats when da suckin truned to blowin...
ive tried so hard to get as far in there with paper towels with paint thinner and laquer to remove paint but its so hard to get in there, idk what else to do...

[redanner]

oh well i was running some faskolor paints then i got finished, ran some paint thinner mixed with warm water through it,,, it was fine..then after a day or two i went to paint again and thats when da suckin truned to blowin...
ive tried so hard to get as far in there with paper towels with paint thinner and laquer to remove paint but its so hard to get in there, idk what else to do...

Denise one of the top people on this site takes her paasches apart and submerges them in a bowl of water and puts them in the micro-wave to give them a through cleaning! check these urls out! http://www.airbrushtech.info/AIRBRUSH/forum/showthread.php?t=444&highlight=microwave+cleaning
http://www.airbrushtech.info/AIRBRUSH/forum/showthread.php?t=3960&highlight=microwave+cleaning
http://www.airbrushtech.net/AIRBRUSH/techfree.html

[jerseycrazee]

i have a badger 155 ,,,,and have seen this before...your getting air bubbles in your paint cup correct? ..its like whit and redanner said its a build of paint...take your gun apart...take out the needle be careful...then the first cap that unscrews.....then unscrew the next section of your brush you will need plyers...exposing your air way holes check them...then take out the small looking penilc end ...your blockage should be in itor in the end of the gun ...when i cleaned that small housing were the needle goes through ..i used a small and i mean thin set of tweezers..to clean it out..dont jam it too hard as in time it will warp your orafice and you wont get anything close to a fine line
i use water based paints and when i thought i had it cleaned a small pice of build up would reappear and i wuold have to go through the whole process again...ack!!!!!!!!!!
hope this helps
cheers

[187maximus]

ok well its got to be something else, i mean i have done everything possible.
theres not ONE spec of painin the dam airbrush
i cleaned it so much , i boiled it and the paint melted out, you know i was like YES YES YES, then i sick in paper towels in there and make sure theres NO paint, and everything came out nice,,, ok put it back together and then turn on the compressor, wait a couple secs, press the triger, and little bubble come outta da paint cup

i screamed F*** SO LOUD because is SO frustrating to the point that you just feel like crying. AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHh

[redanner]

Well I would be contacting Badger Airbrush company after all of that! I believe in The Badger Airbrush Company I'm sure they will make it right!

[ABD]

I dunno anything about the badger...But all the talk of Boiling water and Laq thinner..Just popped in my head, what kinda seals that thing uses..If they are rubber, ya probably fried em out...But if it usesTeflon I'm still lost..hahaha!

Clogs or bent/broke parts is always the cause...You think it's clean, chances are it's got a speck of crap you haven't found yet...or a lil bent, cracked, distorted part causing a stink..Again it's so small you may never notice it....Real finicky parts in there, don't take much to ruin yer day.

[Whit]

Sounds like it was working,, then starts doing this,,,
first thought,, this is when the clog hit,,, I'm thinkin
this brush has a cone tip,, if so,, take a toothpic and
clear the cone (inside) as this is the area most clogs are
found,, find a magnifier and check the inside of the cone !!!
In the future,, if this gives a hint of repeating this,,
take the handle off,, pull the needle back as far as you can,,
hit the air,, this should "Blow" most clogs thru and open
it back up,, lot of these T-shirt booth's run with no handles
just for this reason,, quick fix !!!

[jerseycrazee]

yes whit the cone tip..thats what i was tryiing to say i called it a pencil shaped end then described it were the needle passes through on the end .. after you take the second (with plyers) end off...thats a bugger of a thing its small and hard to hang on too ,,,,dell from what i see there is a seal or thats what it looks like hard to see down there...

Sounds like it was working,, then starts doing this,,,
first thought,, this is when the clog hit,,, I'm thinkin
this brush has a cone tip,, if so,, take a toothpic and
clear the cone (inside) as this is the area most clogs are
found,, find a magnifier and check the inside of the cone !!!
In the future,, if this gives a hint of repeating this,,
take the handle off,, pull the needle back as far as you can,,
hit the air,, this should "Blow" most clogs thru and open
it back up,, lot of these T-shirt booth's run with no handles
just for this reason,, quick fix !!!

[sharonsstudio]

sounds like a clog IMO.. keep us informed on how you did

[187maximus]

seals?

[ABD]

seals?

I dunno if that was for the comment I made or someone else's?...I just meant some Ab's have Teflon O rings (seals) some have rubber..I have no clue what yer AB has..Thinner will eat and kill the rubber ones...That could be a prob....But I'm sure someone (if you don't) will know what kind that AB has.....Just something that popped into my noggin right or wrong...I know nothing about that AB...Hope ya geter straight:)

[closair]

I've had this problem with my Passche Vl, I usually take some ultra fine steel wool and twist a small piece into a point to clean any dried paint. I don't like using any kind of sharp hard objects to clean my tips to keep for damaging them.

[187maximus]

i dont know what the seals are and people have mentioned beesw wax or something, and i never put that stuff...but ill try to fix it , i also bought an iwata revolution HP-CR from coast airbrush.com im so excited

[187maximus]

OMG I THINK I KNOW THE PROBLEM

i contacted badger co. and they randomly menrioned that IF my tip is split that is what is causing the problem, AND THE TIP IS SPLIT AT THE TOP, i thaught it wouldnt matter you know, paint wouldnt just come out right. But i was WRONG, THATS THE PROBLEM, NOW I NEED A NEW TIP. AM I RIGHT EH EH EH

[fontgeek]

I'm glad you found out what your problem is, and that it should be easily repairable.

Most airbrushes have seals/packing/needle bearings, different companies call it different things. The seals sit at the backside of the fluid reservoir area, they keep paint from flowing back through the opening the needle passes through between the trigger and the area where the bottle on your 155 plugs in.
Judging by Badger's exploded view of your airbrush model, your Badger doesn't use seals, it has a permenant metal sleeve that is part of the airbrush body that serves this purpose, Iwata tried the same thing with the original Eclipse and Revolution designs. The problem with that design is that when that sleeve opening gets damaged or worn by use, there is no way to replace or repair it, you basically have to give up the brush.

The beeswax commonly gets used for sealing the threads on the threaded nozzles, and the threads on the nozzle caps. For people who remove their caps or nozzle on a regular basis, it helps fill in the gaps in the worn threads.

When you push the trigger down on your airbrush, the air typically comes through the body of the airbrush, and exits out around the opening in the nozzle cap, it creates enough of a vacuum to atomize and spray the paint that comes out of the nozzle. If that opeing in the nozzle cap gets blocked, then the air looks for then easier escape route, more often than not, that route is back through the nozzle and paint passage, and into the fluid reservoir (the paint cup, bottle, or jar). But sometimes the air finds going through the gaps in the threads of the nozzle where it screws down, or out of the brush by going through the threads of the nozzle cap where it screws onto the airbrush body. Sometimes you may see bubbles forming around the head of the airbrush, the air coming through those threads is why. The air is going to try to come out whatever the easiest path it can.

This is one of the many reasons that keeping your airbrush clean and taken care of is so important.

[187maximus]

ohhhh ok, i should've mentioned that my tip was split right. should i still use that wax stuff? i went to see it at my local super marker, and all they have is like chap stick and lip balm and hand cream and stuff, whats exacl the name of it? and i allready ordered a new tip

[Shiva]

bees wax.. go find a bee keeper, OR a plumbing supply house and get the wax ring for a toilet stool.
should be a mid yellow color.

[fontgeek]

Most of the current toilet seals aren't made from beeswax anymore, but you can get a bar of beeswax from any fabric or sewing store, they sell it for people threading needles and such.

I saw that you had discovered that your nozzle was split, I was just answering the questions about what the wax was for, and what the seals were.

It's not a bad idea to get the wax, it's better to have it and not need it than needing it and not having it.

[crystalr)80]

ok if none of that worked check to make sure you needle isnt bent to clog the hole in the nossel I own a badger 150 and if u have the fine needle in you might want to check then if it is bent the use a pair of needle nose plyers and some sand paper and straigten it. If the needle is fine dont try to melt the paint out again and if you are useing createx paint then all you have to do to get it out is let your airbrush sit in alchol over night its much easier on the airbrush than paint thinner and the smell is more toleratable.