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[moose]

Several new stripers lament about the quality of their work. I am posting these to show that practice WILLimprove your work.the first picture is from my first visit to the Panel Jam held at Cobo Hall in Detroit three years ago. The other two were from last weekend. Practice to get line quality designs will come as line consistancy gets better.

Tim

[Whit]

Lookin Good Moose,,,
Pullin some Good Lines there !!!

[moose]

Thanks Whit. I want to encourage the stripers like the airbrushers have helped and encouraged me!

Tim

[Clem]

I can see an improvement on what you posted but I can't even come close to the first one.

Maybe after a while I'll have to try. Finishing up the flames with a nice stripe would sure help them.

Clem

[blinddog 99]

Tim, I think they all look good. I have the equipment, still workin on the skill and experience and you're way ahead brother! Nice to look at. I love the enamelware, just looks very cool.

Clem, get Wizards striping basics DVD, it has all the basics in there, and is a pleasure to watch and practice with.....(I need to play it again soon, where the hell is the time???)

[Clem]

Checked out a copy of Wizards, problem is, these folks that do DVDs make everything look easy. Been around long enough to know better.

One thing leads to another, leads to another and leads to another.

Gonna go look at the brushes but still one big problem. Never really been able to get all the paint out of a brush.

Clem

[Whit]

Clem,,,,,
it's simular to the airbrush,,, in that,,,
the more you become accustomed to
your brush,,, The Easier It Looks !!!
The more you get used to your brush,,,,,
The Easier It Gets as well !!!
As far as getting the brush "clean",,,
for the most part,, it does'nt have to be
totally clean,,, I oil the brush down,,
after cleaning,, keeping any residue from
drying in the brush,, rinses out next use !!!
I use an automatic trans oil for storage !!!
Good Luck with it and "Happy Paintin" !!!

[Clem]

Thanks for the info Whit, I know one of the first things mentioned was to use linseed oil to get the brush ready to trim. I may have missed it about cleaning and storage but not sure that was mentioned.

Haven't picked up a brush yet but still thinking and looking.

Thanks again,

Clem

[Whit]

Careful with that linseed oil Clem,,,
I oiled some new bushes to have
as back-ups and stored in linseed oil !!
Bugs got into them !!!
The bugs were after the vegetable oil,,,
went thru a couple a hundred $$ of
new brushes !!! ouch !!!:angry-smiley-030:
Last time I used the linseed oil for that !!!
(bugs don't like tranny fluid tho):partyalone:

[Clem]

I've got plenty of trans fluid, also have the linseed.

Ya kinda talked me into trying the trans fluid.

Don't know if these paint shops around here would have a brush but I'll get something going.

Thanks again,

Clem

[colourshift]

what ever happened to neat's foot oil?

[Whit]

Clem,,,
I get them here locally at an automotive
parts house that also sells paint !!!
They're where you find them ,,,
http://www.dixieart.com/Original_Mack_Sword_Stripping_Brushes.htm
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Lynne,,, that stuff turns your socks yellow !!!:partyalone:

[colourshift]

whit...um....why would my socks get anywhere near it? this is one of those inside striper jokes, isn't it.

[blinddog 99]

Lynne, neats foot oil is used to soften yer boots, right? lol.....

On my Mack brushes, I have always used mineral oil. Clean to rinse out, seems to work fine to "hold the sword"....

[colourshift]

I have a striping book, it refers to neat's foot oil...honestly, I'm not making it up.
But I would imagine bugs wouldn't like mineral oil...

[blinddog 99]

No Lynne, don't get me wrong! Nothing wrong with Neats Foot Oil, in fact, I think I recall its listed in the Mack brush website. It is just a bit smelly, and if you use it on your shoes, it will make your socks yellow! LOL..... the best stripers I know all use motor oil, so what the hell do I know???

[colourshift]

motor oil which is a higher viscosity mineral oil...right? I think I have that right...
Ok Scott, thanks for the insight.

[blinddog 99]

You got it Ms. Lynne! Most guys say the detergents in motor oil help condition the brush. They're probably right, but most also use paper to pallette the brush, and I prefer plastic, like a food product lid. The oils in the paint don't get soaked away, and I think it helps load the brush better. Do you stripe? I am just a beginner, so take what I have to say as complete BS, but I am a big fan of Wizard, and that plastic palletting is his idea. Makes sense....

[colourshift]

I know of Wiz, but have had the opp to chat with Gary Jensen as well...I suck at striping, as Moose will find out soon enough.
It's a skill I'd like to have...but haven't put in the time yet.

[moose]

I by no means consider myself an expert. But what I was taught was to clean your brushes use mineral spirits. To store them the best produst is a brush conditioning oil. I have some that I got from my father in law who recently retired from a life time of sign artistry. Good guy to have around. I need to get him to slow down long enough to give me some gold leaf leasons. A lot of stripers use motor oil as Dog said. Once clean dip them in the oil and gently pull between your fingers to remove the rxcess and shape the hairs. As far as triming I would recommend only removint the fly away hairs at the very tip.

For palletting I use high gloss catalog pages. They are cheap and disposable. Use it and rip toss...

Clem, You asked me about the short haired stripers. I do not have much time using them. Only to try out at a couple jams. They are good for small handed people. And tight designs. Some swear by them others at them.

The serious look in the picture you were refering to was taken when I was doing my first apying stripes. It was a primered car so there was no second chances. can't wipe it off like you can paint.

[blinddog 99]

Moose! You give up the airbrush or what? Lets see some practice bro!!! Don't be shy because a lot of big dogs have arrived here. Its still us! LOL, sorry man, haven't had a chance to see what's up in your stuff lately.....