PPG for true fire.

[dogtown]

Does anyone use PPG basecoats for true fire? We have a full scheme at work and I'd like to know what tinters work best, and what candys I will need?

Many thanks
Steve.

[ABD]

Start slingin paint and see what looks cool...If ya wanna make it look like someone else's than you'll have to copy their steps/paints...I say do yer own thing...No 2 fires look the same anyway..Shape or color:D...have at it and have some fun man!!!..LOL

[dogtown]

Lol. All in time my good man! This is just to get me pointing in the right direction. Just a rough guide really. I'm still having trouble finding the candys. Are Auto Air any good?

[Shiva]

Auto Air.. has a learning curve.. you got to practice and 'get comfortable' with it.. HOWEVER, at the same time, ANY paint you use has the same learning curve.
same with an AB.. person A uses it, can turn out masterpieces, person B uses same AB and it hates him..
Who did the DVD on True Fire? doesnt he use Auto Air?
here:
http://www.dixieart.com/Freehand_True_Fire_Templates_by_Mike_Lavallee.html

as far as PPG, ask the guys at your shop for the transparent ones, and go from there.

[colourshift]

I've had access to PPG in the shop before, and have done "true fire" with it. I used the same methodology as Mickey Harris does with AA, when he was still with em. Starting off with a Red, working towards orange, come in with white, and do a transparent yellow over the lot. For the transparent yellow, you'd have to mix an innercoat clear with a yellow tint... or better yet, get your hands on some yellow candy... or yellow orange candy... the pure yellow candy, unless tinted, tends to look greenish against the white (there's a ton of blue in white)...and you have to compensate.

[redanner]

I used PPG for many years in the autobody business it was called Ditzler! Ditzler paint was a very good paint company as is PPG! They were always on the cutting edge put didn't follow any other paint companies leads. I also used Dupont, Sherwin-Williams, BASF, and Glasurit!

[airdream]

i have posted a thread "some blue fire" these are painted with
waterbased autocolors(ICI or NEXA)
the problem with these are that they don't have any candy colors
but it work pretty well with reduced and transparent colors they got
on this i used white,transparent green/blue and reduced blue

have tried fire on red base color too then i used transparent red
and yellow as my candy colors,

[dogtown]

Thanks for the replies! I've nearly got all my candys. I'm just wondering what ppg tinters to use for the red's orange's and yellows? I tried 794 Verdant yellow but it looked too flouresent.
I'm after the right tinters to ues before the candys go over the top.

All help much welcomed!

[versuspaint]

Remember that even if the 794 looks bright, you always go over it with a candy that will darken it up. As far as the auto air, and other waters, if your used to PPG stick with it. I perfer Lesonal which is fairly close to PPG.
Good luck